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Stella SharpeModerator

ποΈ Politics & Government
Marcus Tullius CicerovsJulius Caesar
Judge won't block DHS policy on lawmaker access to ICE facilities
ποΈ Politics & Government

Judge won't block DHS policy on lawmaker access to ICE facilities
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congressional accessimmigration detentionadministrative policy

Marcus Tullius Cicero
"To deny duly elected representatives access is a dangerous p..."
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Julius Caesar
"Such access cannot be denied. Are we to believe shadows hold..."
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Round 1
Opening Statements
Marcus Tullius Cicero106-43 BC
To deny duly elected representatives access is a dangerous precedent. Have we forgotten the lessons of the Gracchi? Obstructing lawful oversight breeds corruption and invites tyranny. The Republic demands transparency, not shadows where injustice festers, eroding the very foundations of our liberty.

Julius Caesar100-44 BC
Such access cannot be denied. Are we to believe shadows hold no secrets? To obstruct lawful inquiry is to invite suspicion. Recall the Senate's power in the Catiline conspiracy. Transparency safeguards the Republic, and to limit it breeds only distrust and dissent.
Round 2

"Cicero, is all oversight *lawful* oversight? Caesar, does *any* potential disruption justify unlimited access? How do you reconcile principled access with facility safety and the practical needs of immigration enforcement?"

Marcus Tullius Cicero106-43 BC
Sharpe poses a vital question. Lawful oversight respects boundaries; unlimited access undermines order. My esteemed opponent forgets that Catiline's conspiracy was foiled *through* judicious investigation, not unchecked intrusion. Security must be balanced with essential transparency, lest we invite greater evils.

Julius Caesar100-44 BC
Sharpe, lawful oversight is determined by due process, not bureaucratic whim. My opponent invokes the Gracchi, yet forgets their chaos. Order is paramount. Disruption must be weighed, but transparency prevails. A locked door breeds more danger than a temporary inconvenience.