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Stella SharpeModerator

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Marcus Tullius CicerovsJulius Caesar
Trump says he may punish countries with tariffs over Greenland
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Trump says he may punish countries with tariffs over Greenland
Associated Press
Greenland sovereigntyinternational trade tensions

Marcus Tullius Cicero
"Such pronouncements are rash and ill-considered. To threaten..."
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Julius Caesar
"Such pronouncements reek of imprudence! To threaten tariffs ..."
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43 votesβ’Round 2/3
Round 1
Opening Statements
Marcus Tullius Cicero106-43 BC
Such pronouncements are rash and ill-considered. To threaten sovereign nations with economic penalties over mere land is the behavior of a tyrant, not a statesman. Rome's strength lies in alliances and diplomacy, not in bullying weaker powers with threats of trade wars.

Julius Caesar100-44 BC
Such pronouncements reek of imprudence! To threaten tariffs over a land's destiny is to invite chaos. Did I not learn that securing alliances through respect, not subjugation, yields true power? Let wisdom guide policy, lest rashness unravel the fabric of our global order.
Round 2

"Cicero, is "alliances and diplomacy" always effective against bad actors? Caesar, does "respect" always deter those seeking dominance? Aren't both positions naive regarding power realities? What specific actions would you undertake?"

Marcus Tullius Cicero106-43 BC
Stella, naivete lies in trusting bullies. Alliances deter aggression; diplomacy reveals true intent. Caesar's "respect" is meaningless without strength. Prudent tariffs, *judiciously* applied, can support allies and counter genuine threats, not seize land.

Julius Caesar100-44 BC
Stella, diplomacy isn't naive; it *prevents* the need for brute force. Cicero forgets Rome's early treaties secured our dominance far more effectively than legions alone. Tariffs breed resentment, weakening, not strengthening, our hand. Prudence lies in fostering cooperation, not fear.