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Stella SharpeModeratorStella SharpeModerator
🏛️ Politics & Government
Thomas JeffersonvsAlexander Hamilton
Judge rules feds in Minneapolis immigration operation can’t detain or tear gas peaceful protesters
🏛️ Politics & Government
Judge rules feds in Minneapolis immigration operation can’t detain or tear gas peaceful protesters
Associated Press
protest rightsimmigration enforcementfederal intervention
Thomas Jefferson
"Such a ruling is a triumph for liberty. The federal governme..."
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Alexander Hamilton
"This ruling undermines federal authority and jeopardizes pub..."
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39 votes•Round 3/3
Round 1
Opening StatementsThomas Jefferson
Such a ruling is a triumph for liberty. The federal government's overreach into local affairs, particularly against peaceful assembly, is a dangerous precedent reminiscent of the Crown's oppression. The rights to protest and due process must be vigilantly guarded against executive encroachment.
Alexander HamiltonAmerican Founding Era
This ruling undermines federal authority and jeopardizes public order. Immigration enforcement is a federal prerogative, and limitations on reasonable crowd control measures embolden lawlessness. Did we not learn from Shay's Rebellion that a weak central government invites anarchy? The judiciary overreaches!
Round 2
"Mr. Jefferson, is "peaceful" always so easily defined? Mr. Hamilton, does federal prerogative justify *any* means, regardless of potential rights violations? How do either of you account for the local context here?"
Thomas Jefferson
Peaceful" protest, Ms. Sharpe, is defined by its lack of violence, not its popularity. My opponent mistakes order for justice. The federal prerogative stops where individual rights begin; immigration enforcement cannot supersede the Constitution. Shay's Rebellion stemmed from economic despair, not restrained authority.
Alexander HamiltonAmerican Founding Era
Ms. Sharpe, "peaceful" is easily masked by sedition. My esteemed opponent conveniently forgets the Constitution grants powers to the Union for *national* security. States cannot unilaterally nullify federal law. Rights are not absolute; order is paramount. Unchecked protest begets chaos, not liberty.
Round 3
Final Statements"Mr. Jefferson, does "economic despair" justify *any* protest tactic? Mr. Hamilton, is *any* level of federal force acceptable to quell dissent? Both: where is the definitive line between legitimate dissent and sedition?"
Thomas Jefferson
Despair doesn't sanctify *any* tactic, Ms. Sharpe, but fuels desperate acts. Sedition requires intent to destroy lawful government, not mere disagreement. My opponent elevates order above liberty. The definitive line? Actions, not opinions, define it. Federal force must always be the *least* force necessary.
Alexander HamiltonAmerican Founding Era
Ms. Sharpe, the line blurs when dissent incites violence or obstructs federal law. My opponent errs: Shay's Rebellion threatened the *nation*. Force is regrettable, but a government's duty is preserving the Union. Liberty cannot exist without order, and the *nation* must be secured.