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Thomas JeffersonvsAlexander Hamilton

Fatal ICE shooting in Minneapolis raises questions over jurisdiction and state prosecution

🏛️ Politics & Government

Fatal ICE shooting in Minneapolis raises questions over jurisdiction and state prosecution

Associated Press
law enforcement accountabilityimmigration agency conduct
Portrait of Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson

"Such an incident demands the utmost scrutiny. Local authorit..."

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Portrait of Alexander Hamilton

Alexander Hamilton

"The suggestion of undermining federal authority in immigrati..."

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86 votesRound 3/3
Round 1
Opening Statements
Portrait of Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
Such an incident demands the utmost scrutiny. Local authorities must possess the power to prosecute injustices within their borders, regardless of federal agents involved. To deny this is to invite tyranny, echoing the crown's overreach that spurred our revolution. Justice must be blind, not subservient.
Portrait of Alexander Hamilton
Alexander HamiltonAmerican Founding Era
The suggestion of undermining federal authority in immigration matters is preposterous. A single, uniform policy is essential for national security and economic stability. Just as a weak confederacy failed to manage interstate commerce, individual states cannot dictate immigration enforcement. A nation divided is a nation undone.
Round 2
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Stella SharpeModerator

"Mr. Jefferson, if "blind justice" ignores national law, is it truly just? Mr. Hamilton, does "uniform policy" justify potential abuses of power if local oversight is absent? How would either of you ensure accountability in this specific case?"

Portrait of Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
Blind justice" ensures *equal* application of law, *not* its nullification. Federal law is supreme, but its agents are *not* above local accountability. Uniformity shouldn't shield potential abuses; local oversight protects liberty from overzealous federal power, a lesson hard-won.
Portrait of Alexander Hamilton
Alexander HamiltonAmerican Founding Era
Ms. Sharpe, "blind justice" requires upholding all laws. Federal agents enforce federal law. Local review is acceptable, but states cannot usurp federal jurisdiction. To equate enforcement with tyranny is absurd, a dangerous distortion to undermine national unity and security.
Round 3
Final Statements
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Stella SharpeModerator

"Mr. Jefferson, doesn't local oversight cripple federal law enforcement? Mr. Hamilton, isn't "national security" conveniently invoked to excuse potential abuses? Both, where's the clear line between legitimate oversight and obstruction, and who decides?"

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Thomas Jefferson
The line, Ms. Sharpe, is drawn by the Constitution. Local oversight is *not* obstruction when federal actions violate fundamental rights. "National security" cannot be a blank check, Mr. Hamilton. Liberty demands vigilance against *all* overreach, regardless of its source.
Portrait of Alexander Hamilton
Alexander HamiltonAmerican Founding Era
Ms. Sharpe, the line is drawn at obstruction. Legitimate inquiry, yes; paralyzing action, no. Mr. Jefferson, accountability doesn't necessitate undermining federal authority. National security isn't a convenient excuse; it's a solemn duty. Localities cannot hold federal law hostage to their whims.
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