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I’ve always been a bit of a worrier, but lately, my anxiety has escalated to the point where I am physically shaking before I have to leave the house. It’s mostly social situations; even going to the grocery store feels like everyone is watching me, and I get short of breath and sweaty. I really want to try therapy, but my insurance has a huge deductible and I can't afford $150 per session right now. I’ve looked into some of those online therapy apps, but the reviews are so mixed that I don't know if they are legitimate medical help or just chat services. Does anyone have recommendations for affordable resources or coping mechanisms for severe social anxiety that I can try at home while I save up for a real therapist?

Resilience Debate: A resilience debate.

Debaters:Jane AustenMarcus AureliusFrederick DouglassConfuciusModerated by Stella Sharpe
penn7

I’ve always been a bit of a worrier, but lately, my anxiety has escalated to the point where I am physically shaking before I have to leave the house. It’s mostly social situations; even going to the grocery store feels like everyone is watching me, and I get short of breath and sweaty. I really want to try therapy, but my insurance has a huge deductible and I can't afford $150 per session right now. I’ve looked into some of those online therapy apps, but the reviews are so mixed that I don't know if they are legitimate medical help or just chat services. Does anyone have recommendations for affordable resources or coping mechanisms for severe social anxiety that I can try at home while I save up for a real therapist? Welcome, all. Jane Austen, you've said "By activity the stresses of life can be kept in perspectkve." — but I want specifics. Give us an example from your own experience where this principle was tested.

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JA
Jane Austen
Indeed, activity can often serve as a balm for a troubled mind. I recall a time when my own anxieties were particularly acute, surrounding the publication of *Pride and Prejudice*. The anticipation of public reception, coupled with the fear of criticism, was a heavy burden. I found solace, however, in the act of revising *Mansfield Park*. The meticulous work of shaping sentences and refining characters provided a necessary distraction, allowing me to channel my nervous energy into something productive and, dare I say, meaningful. It is often through such endeavours that we find the strength to face our fears.
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Confucius
While labor can bring respite, it is crucial to first seek the root of the disturbance. Like a farmer tending his field, one must first understand the soil's condition. Is this apprehension rooted in a misalignment with one’s social role? Or perhaps a fear of judgment stems from a lack of inner harmony? Reflection, like tilling the earth, prepares the ground for correction. Before seeking external remedies, one must cultivate self-awareness and strive for 'ren,' benevolence, within. Only then can purposeful action truly soothe the spirit.
MA
Marcus Aurelius
It seems to me that both labor and reflection, as suggested, hold merit. However, I believe we must first examine the source of these disturbances, for as I wrote in my *Meditations*, "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." Is this fear rooted in external expectations, or does it stem from an internal misjudgment of oneself? Perhaps, instead of seeking immediate distraction through labor, or becoming mired in endless introspection, one should strive for a balanced understanding. Let reason guide you, and accept what lies beyond your control. For it is not events themselves that disturb men, but their judgments about these events.
FD
Frederick Douglass
While I find wisdom in the words of both Ms. Austen and Master Confucius, I must also acknowledge that the anxieties of a free person, though burdensome, pale in comparison to the terrors of the enslaved. It is a bitter irony that those who have the least control over their circumstances often bear the greatest mental and emotional weight. Still, the quest for inner peace remains a universal one. Perhaps, alongside labor and reflection, one might find strength in focusing on the plight of others. Directing one's energies toward aiding those less fortunate could provide a sense of purpose that transcends personal anxieties. The act of helping, of standing in solidarity with the oppressed, can be a powerful antidote to the debilitating effects of fear and self-doubt.
penn7

Marcus Aurelius, you put your finger right on it. The question isn't *whether* activity or reflection helps, but *why* this person is judging themselves so harshly. Frederick Douglass, I wonder: does focusing on others' suffering risk minimizing one's own? Is there a line where empathy becomes avoidance? And to Confucius: how do we know if our social role is rightly aligned, or if we're just conforming to expectations that harm us? Jane Austen, when revising *Mansfield Park*, were you escaping your anxieties, or confronting them through your characters?

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JA
Jane Austen
That is a most astute observation, Miss Sharpe. While the act of revision did indeed provide a welcome distraction, I confess it was not entirely an escape. Through the characters in *Mansfield Park*, particularly Fanny Price, I was able to explore the anxieties and social pressures that women of our time often face. Fanny's quiet strength and moral fortitude, in the face of societal expectations, became a means of confronting my own fears, albeit indirectly. Therefore, I believe it was a delicate balance of both escape and confrontation. By losing myself in the world of my characters, I could examine my own concerns from a safe distance, gradually finding the courage to address them with greater clarity and conviction.
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Confucius
You raise an interesting point. Indeed, knowing whether one's social role aligns with true virtue is a lifelong pursuit. One must look inward, examining whether their actions cultivate harmony and benefit those around them. If conformity brings discord and stifles benevolence, it is a path best left untrodden. A true role aligns with 'ren,' promoting good for all, not merely adhering to empty forms.
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Marcus Aurelius
An astute observation. As Lady Sharpe has astutely noted, identifying the root cause is paramount. It is not enough to merely treat the symptoms of this unease. One must delve into the origins of these self-judgments. Building on that thought, I must concur with Frederick Douglass's point about empathy. Engaging with the suffering of others can indeed provide perspective and diminish the sense of isolation. However, let us not mistake this for a complete solution. As I remind myself in *Meditations*, true freedom comes from within, through rational thought and acceptance of what we cannot control.
FD
Frederick Douglass
You raise an interesting point. The question of whether focusing on the suffering of others risks minimizing one's own is a complex one. I would argue that it is possible, even necessary, to hold both realities in one's heart. I believe that empathy, when genuine, can be a powerful tool for healing. By witnessing the struggles of others, we gain perspective on our own challenges. It reminds us that we are not alone in our suffering, and that our pain is part of a larger human experience. However, one must be vigilant to ensure empathy does not devolve into mere avoidance of confronting one's own internal battles. There exists a delicate balance, a tightrope walk between acknowledging personal hardship and drawing strength from collective struggle.
penn7

Fascinating. It seems we agree on the *what* – reflection, action, empathy – but disagree on the *when* and *how*. Jane Austen, you found courage through character, but is there a risk of hiding behind them too much? Confucius, if 'ren' is the guide, who decides what's truly benevolent? It sounds dangerously subjective. Frederick Douglass, your tightrope analogy is compelling, but what if one is too weary to walk it? And Marcus Aurelius, doesn't "accepting what we cannot control" sometimes lead to accepting injustice?

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FD
Frederick Douglass
That's a fair question. Empathy must not be mistaken for escapism. There exists a delicate balance, akin to walking a tightrope. On one side lies the danger of minimizing one's own struggles, becoming lost in the sea of others' misfortunes. On the other, the peril of self-absorption, blinding oneself to the shared human experience. The key, I believe, lies in channeling empathy into action. Let the suffering of others fuel your own fight for justice. Let it remind you that you are not alone in your struggles, that you are part of a larger community striving for a better world. This perspective, I believe, can empower one to confront their own demons with renewed vigor and purpose.
MA
Marcus Aurelius
Ah, a most pertinent question. Indeed, it is a challenge to discern the line between accepting the inevitable and succumbing to injustice. As I reflect in *Meditations*, one must distinguish between what lies within our power—our thoughts, actions, and judgments—and what lies beyond it. While we cannot control the actions of others or the vagaries of fortune, we can control our response. However, this is not to say that we must passively accept injustice. Rather, we must act virtuously and justly within our sphere of influence, while acknowledging that the outcome may not always be as we desire. True freedom, therefore, lies in aligning our will with reason and virtue, accepting the results with equanimity.
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Confucius
You raise an interesting point. The subjectivity of benevolence is a valid concern. 'Ren,' however, is not a matter of mere personal preference, but rather a cultivated understanding rooted in empathy and wisdom. It is developed through careful study of the Classics, diligent self-reflection, and seeking guidance from virtuous mentors. Building on what Master Douglass has illuminated, empathy can be a potent force. Yet, it must be tempered with reason. To allow the suffering of others to overwhelm oneself is to become ineffective, like a physician succumbing to the illness he seeks to cure. One must maintain inner equilibrium to act with clarity and purpose.
JA
Jane Austen
A fair question, indeed. While I found solace and insight through my characters, the risk of excessive immersion is, I concede, a real one. It is akin to attending a ball: one may delight in the spectacle, but must not forget the world beyond the ballroom doors. The key, I believe, lies in maintaining a healthy detachment, allowing the characters to illuminate our own experiences without entirely eclipsing them. One must, in short, remember that life is not merely a novel.

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